The Pac-12 and Massive 12 commissioners have met to explore long run partnership chances.
What does this imply exactly? Will we see a entire-blown merger down the road? Will the two conferences likely enter Television deal conversations as a group? Will any kind of alliance make the Pac-12 and Massive 12 competitively stronger?
Times nationwide school writer J. Brady McCollough and USC reporter Ryan Kartje share what their resources are expressing Pac-12 lovers can be expecting as convention realignment reshapes the school football landscape.
McCollough: The very first point we really should do prior to going down the rabbit hole of examining what a Pac-12/Significant 12 collaboration could seem like is fully grasp the place this information arrived from. Max Olson, a countrywide school football reporter with the Athletic, has his reporting roots in Significant 12 nation. When I noticed his report, it created perfect perception that the leak revealing the meeting concerning Significant 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby and Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff was from the Significant 12, which desperately requirements to demonstrate the remaining eight schools that there could be some hope of salvaging the league.
My sources explain to me they satisfied for 6 several hours, but from the Pac-12 conclude of factors, I would not overreact. Kliavkoff is going to be taking heaps of meetings in the coming weeks as the landscape shifts in the Texas-and-Oklahoma-to-SEC aftermath. The quote he tweeted afterwards — “One of the most honest sorts of respect is essentially listening to what one more has to say” — appears pointed. He was there to listen.
The Huge 12 would certainly soar at anything at all the Pac-12 is inclined to entertain: a scheduling alliance setting up annual matchups in nonconference participate in or an genuine merger. That all appears dreamy to the Significant 12, which is struggling with an existential danger. But for the Pac-12, my intuition is that a transfer like this with a league that’s on its deathbed would be a previous resort after all other selections to increase the league’s stature heading into 2024 media rights negotiations have been fatigued.
Also, if the Pac-12 has interest in the Massive 12 for recruiting/time zone good reasons, why wouldn’t it just poach a number of of the colleges?
Kartje: Enable me first just acknowledge that I thoroughly assist our new commissioner’s cryptic sub-tweeting. Please, George, do continue during this convention realignment saga.
What he should not do is raid the Big 12 for a selection of faculties that increase almost nothing to the Pac-12 outside of a new time zone. Introducing middling plans indiscriminately, with out intensely scrutinizing the variety of income they provide, is specifically the style of stress shift the Pac-12 must consider to prevent.
Which of the 8 left-powering Large 12 educational institutions is even the most appealing for the Pac-12? Texas Tech? Oklahoma State? Neither of people systems would convey significantly new to the equation, and this convention desperately needs to obtain a way to shut the income gap 1st. If that suggests including colleges that really have their body weight in that regard, great. But I don’t see any alternatives in the Massive 12 footprint. It would seem that most of the conference’s final decision makers understand that.
Now, are there other strategies for the Pac-12 and Big 12 to operate alongside one another? Sure. A scheduling partnership only can help each sides beef up their nonconference schedule and can make foreseeable future media rights negotiations a lot more attractive. But if you’re Kliavkoff, wouldn’t you rather strike that arrangement with a much more attractive meeting that spreads across two time zones, sits on fertile recruiting floor and has a a great deal superior popularity for soccer?
Oh, hello, Massive Ten.
McCollough: Ryan, get ready for your Inbox to fill with the exact same Oklahoma State supporters who have been composing me the previous several weeks after my original column on this make a difference. Guns up, buddy. I will consider up for the Huge 12 a bit and counter that as significantly as fertile recruiting floor, Texas far trumps the schools in the Huge 10 footprint.
You strike the nail on the head, however, about the Big Ten. Kliavkoff would have to interact Massive 10 Commissioner Kevin Warren about a scheduling alliance that with USC, Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and many others., matching up with Ohio Condition, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin, and so on., would produce a bidding frenzy from the Tv set networks and infuse every league with riches.
Of the non-SEC conferences, the Huge Ten retains the cards and may experience it doesn’t will need to hitch its wagon to the Pac-12 — comparable to how the Pac-12 need to feel about the Large 12. The only disaster circumstance for the Pac-12 is that the Huge 10 decides to pillage in reaction to the SEC, and the Pac-12 has the most eye-catching qualities.
Ryan, you’re a Michigander. Do you see the Large 10 carrying out a little something like that? And, as our USC reporter, what do you feel the Trojans would do if Warren dialed them up?
Kartje: If I’m the Huge 10, I unquestionably check out the prospect of pillaging the Pac-12. Outside of the SEC, no other conference is in a additional effective position. Warren can calmly assess the wreckage and decide his upcoming move, and the rest of the landscape will react accordingly. It is all a recreation of hen now, and the Pac-12 would be smart to make that call quickly nevertheless, I’m confident they now have.
USC is the crystal clear prize that the Massive 10 would/really should be right after, which places athletic director Mike Bohn in an intriguing situation of leverage. The Pac-12 desperately requires USC to continue to be set, and Kliavkoff understands that. It’s no coincidence that he toured USC to start with on his convention campus tour. Bohn is a smart person, much too. He is familiar with he can use that leverage to participate in a main aspect in the forthcoming realignment talks.
Since he was employed, Bohn has designed very clear that he wants USC to act like the conference’s flagship university. It is in USC’s best fascination then to build that it could go away, if it would like. I really do not consider we have attained that issue yet. I think USC would want to remain in the Pac-12, if the Pac-12 evolves in the way it’s hoping. But as the pieces begin to change, Bohn would be smart to retain his possibilities open up.
I think we can agree if USC flies the coop, the Pac-12 will be in a pretty bad location.
McCollough: If USC leaves for the Major Ten, then it absolutely will be very good that Bowlsby and Kliavkoff have had this preliminary dialogue! At that position, a merger of the two leagues’ leftovers would make loads of sense.
The Big 10 has been eerily quiet, though there is some excitement about Kansas. That would shock me on its individual, but the Jayhawks would make perception if the Significant 10 is setting up to thrust even further west.
Deputy sporting activities editor Iliana Limón Romero: So, Pac-12 enthusiasts ought to be energized about the future? And like sense very good? This is a new feeling. Your solutions propose optimism in the Conference of Champions soon after yrs of becoming a punchline and receiving left out of the playoff semifinal conversation. Is that a sentiment supporters can believe in?
Kartje: The Pac-12 has a very long way to go just before I would use the words and phrases “excited” or “optimistic,” but the early returns with Kliavkoff have been superior. What takes place next is of the utmost great importance, and Kliavkoff should be getting every single attainable meeting with other commissioners, presidents, AD’s, and so forth., to gauge the landscape.
It is a difficult equilibrium to strike, biding time as the pieces change, but also remaining on leading of all the things to guarantee you don’t get left powering. It is really a activity for a new commissioner, but as Brady noted with his latest tale on Kliavkoff, plenty of individuals feel he’s up to the process.
McCollough: Ryan summed it up nicely. The Pac-12 has to strike the appropriate balance involving offense and defense. Kliavkoff presents the league rationale for hope — visualize if Larry Scott was in cost through realignment offered the erosion of have faith in that had occurred? But just one remark he produced in our job interview — about seeking to be moral, wanting individuals to know that when he mentioned a little something they could believe in him, and he would hope that favor to be returned — caught with me. Mainly because that is not at all the way the game is performed proper now in college athletics. He’d be right to manage some healthful skepticism, and I’m certain he is aware that.